Dear Matthew,
You asked, "can you really understand how that feels if you have not lived it?"
My friend, this ONCE I shall indulge you. Here is my litany of tragedies:
I could have died in 1970 - when a playmate shot me through the mouth with an air rifle. My front tooth shattered. BUT it was that tooth that saved my life.
My best friend passed away in 2002 - not from suicide - but a stroke. He was 42.
No, I haven't made a noose to hang myself. BUT I have pointed a kitchen knife at my heart - when I found out my wife had an affair. (Obviously the knife never went in!)
My biological father was never around when I needed him. BUT in 2002 I visited him - as he had prostate cancer. It was HE (not I) who cried. He passed away soon after.
My first serious girlfriend broke up with me in 1980 just before the FINAL quarter of our graduation year! She moved to Canada and married my high school classmate!
Have I ever gone hungry and without any money to buy lunch for that day? Yes. Have I ever been drunk? Yes. Have I smoked a joint? Yes. Have I taken any prohibited drug? No. Have I visted a prostitute? Guess.
My point? All the above are my "bad" memories. I say now: SO WHAT? I look back with a smirk and a toss on my head - and like Clint Eastwood say, "Go ahead, punk, make my day!"
This ONCE I have indulged you with negativity.
When you're ready, I'll indulge you with the GOOD memories.
Perry
--- In mylifeismine@
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> i have had more than a few friends commit suicide
> and yes some of them were and are role models in one way or another
> i do not define them by that one act
> an action that i would never describe as simple
> have you ever made a noose to hang yourself?
> after searching every corner of your being for some reason not to
> have you ever been that low?
> have you ever been amazed at how although your life is intact and you are getting by just fine
> you feel so dark that you can no longer feel anything
> obviously i chose to stay, was stopped by others at times only to find myself still here
> nothing more nothing less
> surrounded by a darkness i could do nothing about no matter what i said or did
> sometimes surrounded by light
> i feel it getting dark and i know it is going to be bad, and after many years of this and all the things i have tried i know i have to simply survive an unpleasant time and it does not just shrug off
> it is not something i can entirely control, moderate perhaps, make the outcome less dire than it may have been but control it?
> have you been to these places is all i ask
> a little like being a drug addict or prostitute
> can you really understand how that feels if you have not lived it do you think?
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> From: perry enriquez <perryenriquez@
> To: matthew naughton <mattynaught01@
> Cc: mylifeismine@
> Sent: Sunday, 5 July, 2009 1:12:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [mylifeismine] Re: Success Inc.
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> Dear Matthew,
>
> In everything you said, only the line "we can choose what we do, how we act now" offers Hope.
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> Those two psychiatrists made their choice. That choice was to end their mortal lives. In short, they simply "gave up".
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> Would YOU choose them as role models?
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> I offer you these 4 quotations from "Buddha's Little Instruction Book" by Jack Kornfield (author of A Path With Heart):
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> "Every life has a measure of sorrow. Sometimes it is this that awakens us.
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> "Learn to let go. That is the key to happiness."
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> "The trouble is that you think you have time."
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> "In the end these things matter most: How well did you love? How fully did you live? How deeply did you learn to let go?"
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> Matthew, at the end of our own worldly lives, we just leave EVERYTHING behind.
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> Perry
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> From: matthew naughton <mattynaught01@
> To: perryenriquez@
> Sent: Friday, 3 July, 2009 11:29:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [mylifeismine] Re: Success Inc.
>
>
> i still think you are linking the two
> and you completely ignored my second statement that waa a direct response to part of your statement
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> i knew two psychiatrists, people that treat depression daily married to eeach other who died in each others arms, a suicide pact
> it is nevr so clear and easy
> i will not say you are wrong ,because you are not
> obviously a pretty positive person , so keep up the positive , er what were they? power statements.
> i will not tell you why but many of us who find ourselves at a low ebb at times played no part in arriving there
> some things happen to children, to this one as a child, that are beyond their control,
> unspeakable things
> unavoidable things
> things that scar
> things that we could have no control over
> we can choose what we do, how we act now
> but can never forget who we are where we have been what we have seen and what has beyond our control been done to us
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>
> yours with best wishes
>
> matt
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> ____________
> From: perry enriquez <perryenriquez@
> To: mylifeismine@
> Sent: Friday, 3 July, 2009 9:32:36 PM
> Subject: [mylifeismine] Re: Success Inc.
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> I agree, Matthew: there is NO direct correlation between money and depression. I posted that quote by Warren Buffett "Money is a by-product of something I like to do very much" to highlight what many hardworking people forget: that money is but a natural outcome for engaging in meaningful activity. Workers get depressed from doing jobs they "hate" because they "have to". It is not money that causes depression. Rather it is the lack of fulfilment from one's activity that leads to depression. The key, therefore, is to find and engage in meaningful activity - where money just flows as an outcome. Perry
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> --- In mylifeismine@ yahoogroups. com.au, matthew naughton <mattynaught01@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > ok
> > i just never connect money and depression
> > nor do i accept all the blame for the fact that i am at times depressed
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> > From: perry enriquez <perryenriquez@ ....>
> > To: mylifeismine@ yahoogroups. com.au
> > Sent: Friday, 3 July, 2009 5:49:14 PM
> > Subject: [mylifeismine] Re: Success Inc.
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> > Hi All!
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> > Been awhile. I posted this message as a "power" message towards S-U-C-C-E-S- S. You see, we all encounter Ups and Downs in our lives. Our human nature seems to dwell on the negatives - and downplay the positives - which inevitably leads to a downward spiral towards, your guessed it, depression. It is my intention to use this forum, ultimately, towards well-being and success. By way of these "power" messages, we turn our focus towards where we want TO GO (and NOT what we want to avoid).
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> > The quality of your LIFE is a direct result of DECISIONS you have made.
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> > Perry
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> > --- In mylifeismine@ yahoogroups. com.au, matthew naughton <mattynaught01@ ...> wrote:
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> > > errrrrrrrrrr? ??
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> > > From: perry enriquez <perryenriquez@ ...>
> > > To: mylifeismine@ yahoogroups. com.au
> > > Sent: Thursday, 2 July, 2009 7:51:55 AM
> > > Subject: [mylifeismine] Success Inc.
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> > > "Money is a by-product of something I like to do very much." Warren Buffett (Billionaire Investing Guru)
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