Re: [mylifeismine] Relationship Delusions

Thank you Igor, thank you Sangita, I shall get a copy
of the book "Zahir". In my present relationship, there
are questions that am seeking answers to. Perry

--- sangita borgave <sangita142002@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

> The Zahir is one of the best books i have read in my
> life. In my opinion all married couples should read
> this book.  i have never seen anyone take such a
> unique view of marriage and love. i feel all
> husbands shoud read this book.  And also all women
> so they can get an idea of what it is like to have
> real courage in a relationship, to struggle to
> preserve your own identity. in this day and age when
> relationships are becoming more about convinience
> its a gbook that takes you back to the basics. Why
> are you with this person? Do u respect his or her
> identity? Or is this person there in your life only
> to serve some need of yours? Are you in the
> relationship for the sheer joy of it or is it just
> routine? Truly a lovely book.
> Regards Sangita
>
> --- On Wed, 3/9/08, Igor Fuchs <i_fuc@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> From: Igor Fuchs <i_fuc@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [mylifeismine] Relationship Delusions
> To: mylifeismine@yahoogroups.com.au
> Date: Wednesday, 3 September, 2008, 3:41 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
> interesting you saying that about cds, they are very
> helpfull indeed.
> Lately am reading a novel from "Paulo Coelho" call "
> Zahir". and talks about "love".
> He was married and his wife left him to somewhere
> unknown, and he spends the next 2 yars looking for
> her or his old love. The problem is he is mixing up
> love with obessesion and not sure what is anymore...
> he needs to find himself first b4 find his wife.
> Very interesting point. Maybe all of us need to find
> ourselves first b4 finding new love... cheers
>
>  
> igorfuchsydney
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Guy DeByl <guy.debyl@gmail. com>
> To: mylifeismine@ yahoogroups. com.au
> Sent: Tuesday, 2 September, 2008 1:58:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [mylifeismine] Relationship Delusions
>
>
>
> what you say is pretty interesting. . and yes.. i'm
> interested in reading more about what you are
> learning from the cds.
>
>
> On 9/1/08, Lisa Dean <songsfromthebody@ yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear i fuc and others from the "My Life is Mine"
> group
>  
> I am currently listening to cds about relationships
> by Marianne
> Williamson.  She also wrote the book "A Return to
> Love" and
> this is a discussion about the book "A Course in
> Miracles"
> and I don't know who wrote this. 
>  
> Anyway, the cds (four) are a series of public
> lectures, that she
> has made around the world.  She talks about the
> "relationship
> delusions" that we have.
>  
> And one of them is that someone else can make us
> happy.
>  
> She says that while we believe that another person,
> the "perfect"
> person can be our saviour we will never be happy. 
> There is no
> perfect person, we all need to learn to love
> everyone the same. 
>  
> Relationships work better when they are approached
> as a result
> of desire, and not need. 
>  
> I'm still listening, and learning and trying to
> understand it. 
>  
> One of the things she says we do, is to create a
> picture in our
> minds of what the relationship can be like. 
> Generally, this picture
> is blown to pieces pretty quickly, because the two
> people have
> two different pictures of how they want it to be. 
>  
> I will be glad to share this more, as I listen more
> to the cds. 
>  
> Let me know what you think. 
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Lisa
>  
>  
>
>
> "The misfortunes of childhood affect the whole of
> one's life and leave an inconsolable well of sadness
> in the heart of man" P Bridas
>
> --- On Wed, 3/14/07, i_fuc <i_fuc@yahoo. com> wrote:
>  
> From: i_fuc <i_fuc@yahoo. com>
> Subject: [mylifeismine] understand you perfectly,
> To: mylifeismine@ yahoogroups. com.au
> Date: Wednesday, March 14, 2007, 10:36 AM
>
>
>
>
> Hi mate,
> To be honest don't know how to help you now. wish
> could have a
> couple of coffee and a good healthy chat to get the
> things out of
> the heart.(both, mine and yours)
> I feel the same, trying to find someone to talk to.
> Someone who
> could listen understand and give some good advices.
> Yet, don't have anyone. Am single, 46 and wish i
> could have a family
> like yours. I feel that the time is going buy and i
> will be alone.
> In the other hand you have your family and seems
> that you are alone
> too. Life is funny heh!
> Well, i am trying to read a lot, but also have to go
> to work and
> when i get home after 8pm, i can read only a page
> and fall asleep.
>
> Just before your message i sugested to a girl to
> read the book "the
> secrets" by Rhonda Byrne. Please, read it, it is
> inspiring and
> teachs you how to change your negative thoughts to
> posite ones.
>
> Hope you have a nice reading and things starts
> changing for better
> to you.
> with lots of kindness, me
>
> --- In mylifeismine@ yahoogroups. com.au, "j32217"
> <j32217@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I just joined the group today and hopefully will
> get to know" the
> > like-minded people through the group eventually.
> > The reason for me to join the group is I want to
> see how others
> who
> > are in the similar situation as mine cope with
> their lives. I am
> 42
> > and married and have one daughter starting year 7
> this year. Life
> is
> > OK but rather bland in many ways. Weekdays there a
> lot of routine,
> > work, home, work, home. Weeekends are basically
> filled with
> grocery
> > shopping, home cleaning, kind of thing. Our
> marriage is again OK
> but
> > somewhat boring, I probably don*t have that much
> to talk to my
> wife
> > other than ※how*s your day§ kind of stuff,
> nor does she to me.
> > Getting into teenager, my daughter starts to have
> more debates
> with
> > us. I have read books about relationships with
> young adolescent
> kids
> > but in reality it*s not that easy.
> > So I really feel that life has lost its sparkle
> now. I am only 42
> and
> > I don*t want to be like that. I want to have a
> change. I am
> telling
> > myself to think positively but it doesn*t seem
> to be working that
> > well. I tried to pick up new hobbies such as
> carpentry. I also try
> to
> > play more tennis. But I feel I want to make new
> friends, really
> good
> > friends with whom I can talk my heart out, and
> share our ups and
> > downs.
> >
>
>  
>
>
>
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Re: [mylifeismine] Relationship Delusions

The Zahir is one of the best books i have read in my life. In my opinion all married couples should read this book.  i have never seen anyone take such a unique view of marriage and love. i feel all husbands shoud read this book.  And also all women so they can get an idea of what it is like to have real courage in a relationship, to struggle to preserve your own identity. in this day and age when relationships are becoming more about convinience its a gbook that takes you back to the basics. Why are you with this person? Do u respect his or her identity? Or is this person there in your life only to serve some need of yours? Are you in the relationship for the sheer joy of it or is it just routine? Truly a lovely book.
Regards Sangita

--- On Wed, 3/9/08, Igor Fuchs <i_fuc@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Igor Fuchs <i_fuc@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [mylifeismine] Relationship Delusions
To: mylifeismine@yahoogroups.com.au
Date: Wednesday, 3 September, 2008, 3:41 AM

Hi,
interesting you saying that about cds, they are very helpfull indeed.
Lately am reading a novel from "Paulo Coelho" call " Zahir". and talks about "love".
He was married and his wife left him to somewhere unknown, and he spends the next 2 yars looking for her or his old love. The problem is he is mixing up love with obessesion and not sure what is anymore... he needs to find himself first b4 find his wife. Very interesting point. Maybe all of us need to find ourselves first b4 finding new love... cheers
 
igorfuchsydney


----- Original Message ----
From: Guy DeByl <guy.debyl@gmail. com>
To: mylifeismine@ yahoogroups. com.au
Sent: Tuesday, 2 September, 2008 1:58:33 PM
Subject: Re: [mylifeismine] Relationship Delusions

what you say is pretty interesting. . and yes.. i'm interested in reading more about what you are learning from the cds.

On 9/1/08, Lisa Dean <songsfromthebody@ yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear i fuc and others from the "My Life is Mine" group
 
I am currently listening to cds about relationships by Marianne
Williamson.  She also wrote the book "A Return to Love" and
this is a discussion about the book "A Course in Miracles"
and I don't know who wrote this. 
 
Anyway, the cds (four) are a series of public lectures, that she
has made around the world.  She talks about the "relationship
delusions" that we have.
 
And one of them is that someone else can make us happy.
 
She says that while we believe that another person, the "perfect"
person can be our saviour we will never be happy.  There is no
perfect person, we all need to learn to love everyone the same. 
 
Relationships work better when they are approached as a result
of desire, and not need. 
 
I'm still listening, and learning and trying to understand it. 
 
One of the things she says we do, is to create a picture in our
minds of what the relationship can be like.  Generally, this picture
is blown to pieces pretty quickly, because the two people have
two different pictures of how they want it to be. 
 
I will be glad to share this more, as I listen more to the cds. 
 
Let me know what you think. 
 
Regards,
 
Lisa
 
 


"The misfortunes of childhood affect the whole of one's life and leave an inconsolable well of sadness in the heart of man" P Bridas

--- On Wed, 3/14/07, i_fuc <i_fuc@yahoo. com> wrote:
 
From: i_fuc <i_fuc@yahoo. com>
Subject: [mylifeismine] understand you perfectly,
To: mylifeismine@ yahoogroups. com.au
Date: Wednesday, March 14, 2007, 10:36 AM

Hi mate,
To be honest don't know how to help you now. wish could have a
couple of coffee and a good healthy chat to get the things out of
the heart.(both, mine and yours)
I feel the same, trying to find someone to talk to. Someone who
could listen understand and give some good advices.
Yet, don't have anyone. Am single, 46 and wish i could have a family
like yours. I feel that the time is going buy and i will be alone.
In the other hand you have your family and seems that you are alone
too. Life is funny heh!
Well, i am trying to read a lot, but also have to go to work and
when i get home after 8pm, i can read only a page and fall asleep.

Just before your message i sugested to a girl to read the book "the
secrets" by Rhonda Byrne. Please, read it, it is inspiring and
teachs you how to change your negative thoughts to posite ones.

Hope you have a nice reading and things starts changing for better
to you.
with lots of kindness, me

--- In mylifeismine@ yahoogroups. com.au, "j32217" <j32217@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I just joined the group today and hopefully will get to know" the
> like-minded people through the group eventually.
> The reason for me to join the group is I want to see how others
who
> are in the similar situation as mine cope with their lives. I am
42
> and married and have one daughter starting year 7 this year. Life
is
> OK but rather bland in many ways. Weekdays there a lot of routine,
> work, home, work, home. Weeekends are basically filled with
grocery
> shopping, home cleaning, kind of thing. Our marriage is again OK
but
> somewhat boring, I probably don*t have that much to talk to my
wife
> other than ※how*s your day§ kind of stuff, nor does she to me.
> Getting into teenager, my daughter starts to have more debates
with
> us. I have read books about relationships with young adolescent
kids
> but in reality it*s not that easy.
> So I really feel that life has lost its sparkle now. I am only 42
and
> I don*t want to be like that. I want to have a change. I am
telling
> myself to think positively but it doesn*t seem to be working that
> well. I tried to pick up new hobbies such as carpentry. I also try
to
> play more tennis. But I feel I want to make new friends, really
good
> friends with whom I can talk my heart out, and share our ups and
> downs.
>

 




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