Re: [mylifeismine] What is REALITY?

Gail, your reply put a smile on my face for short period. I say this because, i believe that observation is a great tool for philosophy. I say this because if for a moment we stoped to think about what we do everyday in what we call the best of western civilisation. Meaning the system. You see you don't really need science to prove everything in this content is a contection of each. Somehow everything i see is for the purposes of developing something or someone into the "system". I don't try to profess anything, but i do declare that more can be done about the direction of this system or it's true purpose. Is this the only thing life has to offer, i would like to think we as humans. We could recreate a system that doesn't distroy it self. It all seems a bit of a waist if this is it. IS This is the best we could do for life as we know it. i hope not, we are so concerned about the bottom dollar or at the end of the day this is equal to this. What does it achieve, so many suffer and a victim of this system. I know cause i'm one.


----- Original Message ----
From: Gail <positiveeq@yahoo.com.au>
To: mylifeismine@yahoogroups.com.au
Sent: Friday, 8 August, 2008 10:10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [mylifeismine] What is REALITY?

Hi Dean,

Yes you raise a valid point: Maslows' hierarchy of needs: there is a point where some lie above or below the 'basic necessities' have very little choice. However, in recognising this, perhaps you have heard of 'Mans Search for Meaning' by Viktor Frankl. This may give you a lot of food for thought - how the mind & will to live can endure despite the most deplorable conditions - and yes, he used his mind consciously/ applied his mind to his circumstances.

 

With all our intelligence & prowess, we still have only the slightest inkling of the vast power and possiblity that exists. In fact, it seems to me the more we chase it (i.e. the concept of existance/reality) , the further it slips from our grasp. Paradoxically it is in those moments when we let go, and merge with whatever 'it' is, that we come closer to the truth: of what is, our potential and purpose as agents of the powerful universal system itself. Perhaps we are deluded in thinking/assuming that we act alone, for every thing is interconnected (scientific laws?), therefore can we attempt to perceive an individual reality, or is there only one, and we represent an insignificant particle thereof?

 

Take ego out of the equation, and what remains?

 

Happy thinking,

Gail



----- Original Message ----
From: Dean Nicholas <dynikolas@yahoo. com.au>
To: mylifeismine@ yahoogroups. com.au
Sent: Tuesday, 5 August, 2008 1:19:05 PM
Subject: Re: [mylifeismine] What is REALITY?

I don't agree that we create our own reality. I think reality is something forced on to us by a predetermined history, economy etc. You asked us to imagine a beating heart. Now imagine, you were born with nothing of the comforts of what you have now. Even food, truly can that being create a different reality?
I think not. There are many people who suffer because of philosophical elitism. For example the Africa problem. It is their problem after all. Not a global problem. It's an African political problem is it not?
 
For each of us to create our own "world" and how we perceived it, i think would be to identify a delusion of something not real. I do agree that it is to the individual to create their own state of mind an attitude. However, family, culture and environmental factors in how that individual responses are a tautology, a monkey see monkey do scenario. Each one of us beings is not an "Island" we rely on each other in some form of recognition and approval. Therefore creating ones own reality is a cooperative method.
 
But this leaves me saying, we are born naked and from our mothers we come, we journey and suffer through out life, we die clothed and alone.What we do in between time is entertain our intellects and dance around the truth. Money truly is the root of all evil necessity i think. If you don't agree you can post it all to me, i'm sure you wont mind.

----- Original Message ----
From: chris cleary <clearyadam@hotmail. com>
To: mylifeismine@ yahoogroups. com.au
Sent: Monday, 4 August, 2008 3:12:49 AM
Subject: RE: [mylifeismine] What is REALITY?

Very well said perry i like it



To: mylifeismine@ yahoogroups. com.au
From: perryenriquez@ yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:31:45 +0000
Subject: [mylifeismine] What is REALITY?

REALITY is how YOU "define" it. Hard to believe? Imagine being born
without your FIVE (5) senses; that is, you have no sight, no smell,
no hearing, no touch and no kinesthesis. All you have is a beating
heart, breathing lungs, and a conscious brain. Now HOW would YOU define
"reality"? Isn't this a reality that is UNIQUE to you, and only YOU?

Conclusion: We each create our own "reality". Our individual
mental, emotional and physical "states" determine how we piece together
and create a "world" that, in return, we "perceive". How each of us
view this life, experience it and live it is, essentially, our
own "creation".

Perry



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Re: [mylifeismine] Re: What is REALITY?

Disiderater is words of wisdom, how ever the saying are philosophic banter is eternal and beautifull entertainment for all who can read and understand them.


----- Original Message ----
From: perry enriquez <perryenriquez@yahoo.com>
To: mylifeismine@yahoogroups.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, 13 August, 2008 8:32:05 AM
Subject: [mylifeismine] Re: What is REALITY?

It has been a very lively and scholarly discussion on this topic.
Responses were well reflected upon and very enriching to everyone. I
congratulate you all. This type of discourse is what this group is
all about: Awaken The Giant Within serves to AWAKEN each of us into
consciousness and action. Fate and Luck do NOT just happen. Our
individual choices and decisions will decide our quality of life.
Though we cannot individually decide external reality, we do have
control on how we perceive and therefore respond to challenges thrown
our way. The weather may be cold and wet, the work may be long and
hard, the family may be rowdy and misbehaving, etc. etc. etc. It is
YOU who decides HOW to respond to whatever stimuli. It is YOU who, in
effect, will create the "reality" that is RELEVANT to YOU! The world
around you may be at war, poverty and pestilence world wide, economic
recession, gas hikes, food shortage, etc. etc. etc. But it is YOU who
can find that "centre", that "balance" within you, that will find you
that all important peace and contentment simply because you are HERE
and NOW and UNIQUE - AS YOU TRAVEL IN THIS ROAD CALLED LIFE.

"You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the
stars, you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to
you, no doubt the universe is unfolding, as it should." (Desiderata)

There is a tale of an elephant surrounded by five blind men. Each one
held a different part of the elephant. One held the tail, one held
the trunk, one held the ear, one held the foot, and one held the
tusk. Now each of them was asked to DESCRIBE the elephant.

Now tell me: What is the REAL elephant?

Another tale: A tree in a forest came crashing down. However there
was NO ONE to hear the crash.

Now tell me: Was there a SOUND?

I am privileged to be among you all.

Perry


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